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A11Eur0 · Jan 04, 2009, 12:25 AM // 00:25

I did some searching, couldn't find the thread/posts concerning the switch in the HOM to account-wide, so I figured I'd refresh the discussion.

When is this going to happen, because honestly it sounds like a load of crap shoveled onto our plates to keep us interested. What's the official word on this change and do we have a loose timeframe of when to expect this? Because as I remember it, it was supposed to be part of November's updates.

Parson Brown · Jan 04, 2009, 12:44 AM // 00:44

Could be a while since the GW dev team was reassigned to GW2. It also now seems that most of the GW2 team is working on GW3, so GW2 will be out as soon as the remaining 2 developers on the team can code it!

Seriously, who knows / never / this month.

Mister_Smiley · Jan 04, 2009, 12:51 AM // 00:51

Gotta remember that they could already have it done for GW, but still are working on it got GW2, in order it make it work, they gotta have them work togeather so that its not a failure. Also they gave no offical date on when it would be out, i figure sometime 09 and most likey closer to Gw2 Beta.

A11Eur0 · Jan 04, 2009, 12:53 AM // 00:53

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Originally Posted by Parson Brown

Could be a while since the GW dev team was reassigned to GW2. It also now seems that most of the GW2 team is working on GW3, so GW2 will be out as soon as the remaining 2 developers on the team can code it!

Seriously, who knows / never / this month.

GW2's team was assigned before this change was announced. The best answer I can likely expect other than an actual time frame is that there are difficulties displaying armors that have no matches on the character for which the HOM is being displayed. If that's the case, then might I suggest displaying armors with the character's model and name that the armor is made for? That would require loading models of multiple characters on an account which might pose an issue but I don't know the details of the coding process.

I'd really like to see this change occur before I start customizing my non-main characters' torm/destroyer weapons.

MarlinBackna · Jan 04, 2009, 12:55 AM // 00:55

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Originally Posted by A11Eur0

I did some searching, couldn't find the thread/posts concerning the switch in the HOM to account-wide, so I figured I'd refresh the discussion.

When is this going to happen, because honestly it sounds like a load of crap shoveled onto our plates to keep us interested. What's the official word on this change and do we have a loose timeframe of when to expect this? Because as I remember it, it was supposed to be part of November's updates.

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Originally Posted by Official Wiki

At this time, there is no expected release date on the remaining account-wide changes to the Hall of Monuments.

This was as of September 25 of last year. The source is here: http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Arena...l_of_Monuments

And why do you say it's a load of crap? Honestly, whatever cuts down on the work I do to make a better HoM for myself, I will think as a freaking blessing, especially since my main doesn't have all the titles some of my other characters have (considering some of those I have no desire to do again!!). I don't see how this update will be "bad" in any way. :/

Konig Des Todes · Jan 04, 2009, 01:14 AM // 01:14

If I remember correctly, it was stated that the GW1 side of the changes were done and they are working on the GW2 side.

So it can happen anytime, my bet is the next month without an event. Meaning first/second Thursday of February. February will be the earliest it shows, won't be this month due to the Canthan New Year.

Edit: Also, the November update was never to touch on the HoM, that was player speculation. The only update so far that was meant to have a HoM change was the October update, which had the Tormented weapons included.

Shadowspawn X · Jan 04, 2009, 03:24 AM // 03:24

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Originally Posted by MarlinBackna

I don't see how this update will be "bad" in any way. :/

Its bad because its punishes duplicity, those who actually play multiple characters will have their achievements nullified instead of recognized which was originally the purpose of the HoM. Take a guy who has 10 toons and finishes all campaigns on each one earning three protector titles per toon. This guy gets the same reward as some guy with one toon who completed every campaign which is nowhere near the achievement of the first player.

To be fair there is good as well. Take a guy like myself with a pre factions main who was unable to get Legendary Survivor or LDoA because the hero predates those particular titles. Any toon I make in GW2 will gather these rewards from other characters on the account as well as the rewards from my main. So as with any change half the community benefits and half get screwed.

There has been no news on this as of late so there is nothing to really add to what is known. The only thing they didn't tell us is the date of implementation anyway. So when news does come it won't be anything new.

slowerpoke · Jan 04, 2009, 03:35 AM // 03:35

I think they're hoping folks forget about it

Konig Des Todes · Jan 04, 2009, 03:39 AM // 03:39

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Originally Posted by Shadowspawn X

Its bad because its punishes duplicity, those who actually play multiple characters will have their achievements nullified instead of recognized which was originally the purpose of the HoM. Take a guy who has 10 toons and finishes all campaigns on each one earning three protector titles per toon. This guy gets the same reward as some guy with one toon who completed every campaign which is nowhere near the achievement of the first player.

I always viewed it as the other way around. It reduces grind needed for those who play multiple characters. Prior to the change, people need to get all the achievements/armors/etc. multiple times. After the change, only once. The only "bad" part about it is that those who filled out the HoM on multiple characters will have less benefits. But unless they grinded like crazy to do it (and if they did so prior to the announcement, they either are robots or eBays money), there won't be any "bad" parts without them being the idiots.

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Originally Posted by slowerpoke

I think they're hoping folks forget about it

That won't be happening. As proven by yet another thread being made.

I pwnd U · Jan 04, 2009, 04:11 AM // 04:11

It will happen eventually. We just need to keep being patient... though sometimes complaining gets things done faster...

A11Eur0 · Jan 04, 2009, 06:14 AM // 06:14

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Originally Posted by Azazel The Assassin

That won't be happening. As proven by yet another thread being made.

Find me "yet another" thread dealing with this and I'll gladly ask for this one to be closed. I did 10 minutes of searching using various key words and found nothing dealing specifically with this issue, only people injecting this issue into other update threads.

And it was given an "official" timeframe of November 2008 when it was first announced, but that timeframe was subsequently pushed back to "we don't know."

shoyon456 · Jan 04, 2009, 07:34 AM // 07:34

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Originally Posted by A11Eur0

but that timeframe was subsequently pushed back to "we don't know."

This seems to be anet's motto for everything now... that accompanied by deafening silence.

Boneyard Spleeneater · Jan 04, 2009, 07:54 AM // 07:54

I have noticed that every toon I enter the HoM with already has a tapestry on the titles monument. They can't all access it, but it is there. I was able to add my survivor titles to it for my survivor, even though they don't have KoaBD yet.

That is the only one I have seen yet that is account wide though.

Frankly, while they're at it, I would like them to make the EotN titles account based as well. I am NOT looking forward to grinding those titles 4-5 more times.

shoyon456 · Jan 04, 2009, 08:00 AM // 08:00

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Originally Posted by Boneyard Spleeneater

Frankly, while they're at it, I would like them to make the EotN titles account based as well. I am NOT looking forward to grinding those titles 4-5 more times.

From what I understand, nothing except the HoM is going account based. Although ppl had been asking for wisdom/treasure hunter to go account, it was not planned.

But I don't see the reason to max eotn titles on non-main chars.

In addition, I do not think that the account-wide HoM will affect KoaBD, you will still have to max all the titles on one char to get that rank.

Arkantos · Jan 04, 2009, 10:49 AM // 10:49

They'll update HoM when they give us concept art for GW2. Basically it's a timeframe of 1 month - xx months.

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But unless they grinded like crazy to do it (and if they did so prior to the announcement, they either are robots or eBays money)

It may be hard for you to believe, but there are many people out there with many stacks of ectos/zkeys they got legally. Don't assume everyone who has millions of gold are bots/ebayers.

Lycan Nibbler · Jan 04, 2009, 11:18 AM // 11:18

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Originally Posted by Azazel The Assassin

But unless they grinded like crazy to do it (and if they did so prior to the announcement, they either are robots or eBays money), there won't be any "bad" parts without them being the idiots.

Yet another person that if you have done more than them, then the blanket statement that you didnt do it a legitimate way /disgust

fusa · Jan 04, 2009, 02:19 PM // 14:19

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Originally Posted by Boneyard Spleeneater

I have noticed that every toon I enter the HoM with already has a tapestry on the titles monument. They can't all access it, but it is there. I was able to add my survivor titles to it for my survivor, even though they don't have KoaBD yet.

Adding a tapestry to the titles monument was never an option, and you never needed any maxed titles to add to that monument. Other than changing customized pets to be account wide nothing has been done to make it account wide. ( I mean that pets are customized to account instead of character, not the monument being account wide)

Master Knightfall · Jan 04, 2009, 02:44 PM // 14:44

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Originally Posted by Miss Drops Az

Yet another person that if you have done more than them, then the blanket statement that you didnt do it a legitimate way /disgust

And he's an assassin what did you expect? They always think they are better than everyone until you blind one of them then they call you noob and cookie cutter and all kinds of foul names because they are useless without their eyes. lmao

Shadowspawn X · Jan 04, 2009, 03:18 PM // 15:18

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Originally Posted by Miss Drops Az

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Originally Posted by Azazel The Assassin

But unless they grinded like crazy to do it (and if they did so prior to the announcement, they either are robots or eBays money), there won't be any "bad" parts without them being the idiots.

Yet another person that if you have done more than them, then the blanket statement that you didnt do it a legitimate way /disgust

Yeah he's a slimball, Don't even respond his venomous gibberish maybe he'll go away.

Menlai Littiz · Jan 04, 2009, 03:34 PM // 15:34

tbh if this update does happen soon it would revitalize my interest in gw, atm im dwindling and my playtime has dropped considerably, whereas if this happens i may be able to actually get my head around the title farming seeing as it would be for all my characters not just my monk.